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	<title>Comments on: No RAID5 on the X4200 SAS Controller</title>
	<link>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/</link>
	<description>by Mark Mayo</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-214690</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I must say this all sounds awesome, but how the heck do I set this all up.  I have two x4200's and I always get errors like my slices overlapping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say this all sounds awesome, but how the heck do I set this all up.  I have two x4200&#8217;s and I always get errors like my slices overlapping.
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-33102</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-33102</guid>
					<description>I believe LSI Logic Megaraid SAS 8300XLP (ZCR card) will give full RAID support for x4200.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe LSI Logic Megaraid SAS 8300XLP (ZCR card) will give full RAID support for x4200.
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		<title>by: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-10711</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-10711</guid>
					<description>Thx for the comments folks. Clearly Sun is imagining that anybody "serious" will attach to some network storage. Which is too bad, cause a 4 disk RAID5 would be handy on this box, especially when 146GB SAS drives arrive.. I wonder how much cost the MegaRAID SAS card would add?

ux-admin: I didn't even know you could do a mirrored UFS root on x86! I use SVM mirrored boot disks on our Sparc boxes (and have for a long, long time). I'll have to try it out. Both of these boxes are going to be os-neutral app servers so they can run any OS really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx for the comments folks. Clearly Sun is imagining that anybody &#8220;serious&#8221; will attach to some network storage. Which is too bad, cause a 4 disk RAID5 would be handy on this box, especially when 146GB SAS drives arrive.. I wonder how much cost the MegaRAID SAS card would add?</p>
<p>ux-admin: I didn&#8217;t even know you could do a mirrored UFS root on x86! I use SVM mirrored boot disks on our Sparc boxes (and have for a long, long time). I&#8217;ll have to try it out. Both of these boxes are going to be os-neutral app servers so they can run any OS really.
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		<title>by: benr</title>
		<link>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-10709</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-10709</guid>
					<description>Thats a really kick ass photo Mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats a really kick ass photo Mark.
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		<title>by: Jason Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-10708</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-10708</guid>
					<description>Yeah I had noticed that when reading the whitepaper (and during a recent obssession with sas raid controllers). 

A 4 disk RAID5 is extremely common but they're just using a SAS "controller" with "Integrated RAID™" (meaning RAID1 or RAID0). This is LSILogic's "low cost RAID" solution that's included in the straight controllers. Their controllers   expanders is what people are using to build SAS/SATA JBODs that are wired up and hooked into a server with a real hardware RAID card. 

What they should have done is spend a bit more and put in the MegaRAID SAS cards (which if you feel like putting one in and rewiring the inside, they work fine).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I had noticed that when reading the whitepaper (and during a recent obssession with sas raid controllers). </p>
<p>A 4 disk RAID5 is extremely common but they&#8217;re just using a SAS &#8220;controller&#8221; with &#8220;Integrated RAID™&#8221; (meaning RAID1 or RAID0). This is LSILogic&#8217;s &#8220;low cost RAID&#8221; solution that&#8217;s included in the straight controllers. Their controllers   expanders is what people are using to build SAS/SATA JBODs that are wired up and hooked into a server with a real hardware RAID card. </p>
<p>What they should have done is spend a bit more and put in the MegaRAID SAS cards (which if you feel like putting one in and rewiring the inside, they work fine).
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		<title>by: ux-admin</title>
		<link>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-10707</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-10707</guid>
					<description>RAID1 0 with SVM UFS is extremely reliable on the i86pc platform.

I've subjected my Solaris i86pc workstation to a lot of very violent crashes and never lost any data on the mirrored boot disks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAID1 0 with SVM UFS is extremely reliable on the i86pc platform.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve subjected my Solaris i86pc workstation to a lot of very violent crashes and never lost any data on the mirrored boot disks.
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		<title>by: neil corlett</title>
		<link>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-10706</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vmunix.com/mark/blog/archives/2006/03/29/no-raid5-on-the-x4200-sas-controller/#comment-10706</guid>
					<description>well, in about 3 - 4 months we will see the production release of ZFS. that won't help with bootable partitions though.

there will be a bootable ZFS at some point. it looks to be considered important. mailiing lists indicate Great Things are afoot in install, patching &#38; packaging, levered off ZFS checkpointing and other features.

it's hard to know if the firmaware in LSI is more reliable than the code in solaris...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, in about 3 - 4 months we will see the production release of ZFS. that won&#8217;t help with bootable partitions though.</p>
<p>there will be a bootable ZFS at some point. it looks to be considered important. mailiing lists indicate Great Things are afoot in install, patching &amp; packaging, levered off ZFS checkpointing and other features.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s hard to know if the firmaware in LSI is more reliable than the code in solaris&#8230;
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